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Aloha Kirk!
The way I was using my SB800 and SB600(s) was and is for location portraits, so when I was using the CLS I put the 800 on the camera because it has to be the 'command' unit when using this combo, and a 600 on a light stand. Because I want the unit closest to the camera to be the fill and the off camera unit to be the key, I would set the head of the 800 at a 45 degree with the bounce card extended, and place the 600 about 45 degrees off camera. I couldn't get them to work at all on manual. And the worst thing about it was that it is getting all the info from the camera, which is reading the background light as well as the light on the subject, so I got wildly inconsistent exposures! And then there's the problem that the remote unit must 'see' the preflash from the 'command' unit...When shooting into the sun, (sun behind subject), forget it!!
Using the Pocket Wizards or Skyports elliminates all those problems, I set the flashes at what power I want them, and they fire without preflash and give me the exposure I want regardless if I'm shooting into the sun or how much difference there is between the background light and the ambient on the subject.
Aloha,
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